Hate that my comments lost one of the great owners …….

Just close out…Rajwadi and Deities other trade worked magic for the giving them 2 starters OL or atleast boom players in bad draft……

Frank.....i agree with you 100%. HK offered the same trade to me and i rejected it telling him he was asking way to much . I countered with offering only a first round pick.

As for Pernbronze, let him leave. I' tell you what the first straw was, now that he left. Not long ago, in another league that i was in with him, a new owner with 4 months experience joined. The day after he joined he made 3 trades with Pernbronze. He traded away two #1 picks and two #2 picks for some cornerbacks with 65 speed and two old DL linemen. I called him out over it. The commish of that league said he "spoke with both owners and they wanted them to stand." Pernbronze, in return offered to "mentor" the new kid. Well, the new guy checked in once after that and then left. Pernbronze was pissed at me for calling him out on the trade. It just looked awful fishy and the commish did nothing about it.

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Do you ever get tired of lying Hondo? It was a 69 and 72 speed CB who were 4th and 5th years and two of the best corners in the league at the time and a very good 6th year DT to a team expected to make a playoff run. All players costing under a million a season on long term contracts. All the trades were started by the other owner and hundreds in his favor. I offered sending some extra picks since I had plenty due to your whining like a baby that I wasn't forced to release good players after getting a few too many in free agency for cheap due to few owners bidding with mostly full teams. The other owner declined and kebab asked me to mentor him which I attempted but he bailed due to your whining.

Hondo's endless beating this dead horse across multiple leagues was one issue, the subscription stuff was another, the new UI is trash and you've been overbearing policing trades a number of times Frank seeming targeting me and hk due to trading too much while letting far worse trades go. I'm already dealing with a ton of real life stuff including cancer, needing both hips replaced, being deaf, my mom died this year from lung cancer, and my roommate in and out of the hospital with breathing issues. HK getting arbitrarily screwed over and his arguments being run roughshod over without remorse was just too much. Like I said it was just the last straw. I greatly respect you Frank and love your leagues, it's why I subscribed to keep multiple teams. Dealing with the trade vetos wasn't enough to make me bail on its own. I'll probably still stick around as a free player in 127 but I've left the rest of my teams.

Sorry to hear that and will wish and pray for better health and happiness…….wish you all the luck…..

Gentlemen……trade was fair compared to many before and the one I pointed but that is not my call…hence I put my grievance .but same time I will respect Commish decision and will close the topic…..

To any of you think 7 yr vet is worth 1st and 3rd over similar young player at position let me know would to trade my 7 year vet for 1st and 3rd ……its my open offer, solet see now how many of you will go for so called fair trade

Everyone use different value system Hondo and I have always respected your view and counter …we have made it work

yeah man.....take care of yourself. this is just a silly game. not sure why people get so emotional about it. its good to see people are competitive tho

as far as targeting allegations go...... i say no chance. absolute zero. i do my best to run a fair league for all. decisions arent always easy. when a new owner comes in and starts trading all their draft picks i have to put the stop on it. if i see a trade that i dont believe is "right" i will veto always. i explained why the trade didnt seem "right" to me. perhaps i should have vetoed the other trade.....but i didnt. i will never go back and veto another trade because of another trade i vetoed. trying to keep the amount of upset owners to a minimum here

moving forward, please refrain from commenting in the forums of Ultimate Legends if you are not a participating owner....this league will remain drama free for all to enjoy

thanks for participating in the league. it always sucks to lose a long time owner. take care and sorry to hear about your mother. i lost mine recently and it is a real punch in the gut. i play this game as an escape from reality

ps when yr Vikings have their Legends Ball tell Manuel Rivas i said hi